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Amazing...

Postby Flemtality on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:56 am

http://www.ensidia.com/muqq/blog/4078/

In short, Ensidia actually got banned for being assfags this time.

Hello friends,

I got suspended today for supposedly and blatantly exploiting the Lich King encounter in 25-man mode. Here's the mail:


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Date of Violation: 03/02/2010


Character Name Involved: Muqq
Type of violation: Exploitation – Abuse of in-game mechanics or glitches with intent to exploit or cheat in World of Warcraft.
Details: Use of Saronite Bombs to bypass The Lich King fight mechanics Consequences for Account: Account suspended for 72 hours, all items and achievements gained removed


Greetings,

We are writing to inform you that we have had to place a warning on your World of Warcraft account and temporarily suspend it. It is with regret that we take this type of action, but it is in the best interests of the World of Warcraft community as a whole, and for the integrity of the game. The use of these items bypassed a major portion of the encounter, significantly reducing the difficulty in a clear abuse of game mechanics. After your suspension has expired, you will be able to access the World of Warcraft servers again.

Please note that should any further violations of our Rules and Policies occur, this incident will be taken into consideration when determining the consequences to your account. This could include further warnings, account suspension or account termination.

We strongly suggest you review our current Rules and Policies to avoid further action in the future, they can be found at:
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You can also find further information on the different levels of account penalty we can apply at: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/policy/acc ... lties.html

If you have any further enquiries regarding your account status, please use the webform at the following address:
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First of all, I took the time to log onto the account management page and discontinue my payment plan. It's been a long and good 5 years and 2 months since day 1 of the US release of World of Warcraft. Many good memories were made, and fun times were had. That's over now. My subscription runs out of February 21st, which marks the last day of World of Warcraft for me. One player out of 11 million is nothing, so don't give me the crap about can I have your stuff. This isn't about me or my guild. It's about Blizzard and the fucking shit they pull.

Looking back, moving from Final Fantasy X! to WoW was a big step, and there's times that I regret making that decision, while on occasion I was happy to have taken the step. World of Warcraft was different back then. It was new, challenging and interesting. undoubtedly though, it was nowhere near as feature-rich as it is today, but that didn't matter back then. The game was a continuation of EverQuest, a game most of the senior development staff of World of Warcraft are familiar with on firsthand basis. Many of them played the game for years, and I can see that it served as a major inspiration when I look at what World of Warcraft was when it was released. Being an avid EverQuest player myself during a time, It drew me in further into the game.

Things have changed since those days, changed a lot. The game stopped being that fun. Less challenges were present in the game, and as we got through TBC and more so in WotlK, homogenization started to rear its ugly face in World of Warcraft. Everyone running around with identical gear, looking the same, doing the exact same things. With arenas, changes were made on a monthly basis that affected the way classes were developed, and subsequently also lead to how PvE was being done in the game. It got stale, predictable and repetative. The whole notion of hybrids in the midst of all this was just a fucking slap in the face by Blizzard. If you're going to remove everything unique and interesting about the classes, at least make them equal in the roles that they are performing.

Their idea of hybrid was something taken from classes in EverQuest, where people played classes that were jack of all trades, master of none, or very specialuzed roles, such as a pure buffer (bards etc). Classes that existed for one purpose, and nothing else. They removed most of those in WotlK, but still stuck with the notion that hybrids somehow offer something special just because they have the ability to respec to a different role. Kind of a strange take on the whole thing, considering what they've already done to make it easy in leveling and gearing up characters on the same account, with more and more things being accountbound rather than characterbound. Two-faced by Blizzard in my opinion. Removing the boundary between account characters on one hand, and at the same time claim hybrids needs to be penalized because they have the option of respeccing to perform different roles that a simple log out/log in would have taken care of.

Let's face it. This game is boring for veterans. The only reason it's still being played is because there has never been good alternatives during these 5 years. Age of Conan, Warhammer Online and Aion fucking flopped like shit. Really developers, if you want to make an MMO, don't go and fucking try to copy WoW. If people wanted to play WoW, they'd play WoW, not your shitty gimp ass version of it. Let it be a lesson to all you developers out there.

Anyway, back to the subject. This was as good time as any to drop this game and move on. Had been considering it for a while, and I always said to Buzzkill and the gang that I was just waiting for the sign. A sign from heaven to guide me on my way. Today, I received it. I doubt we'll ever get a perm-ban, as the loss of PR from banning topguilds is going to hurt their subscription numbers much more than quelling angry cries of the fucking noobs in this game ever would. Really, if you don't know shit about this game, just shut the fuck up and do something else. You level 1 posters and the forums can honestly go fuck yourselves, since you're too shit to know even the basics of this game.

Finally dear Blizzard:


Fix your goddamn buggy bullshit half-assed encounters. The amount of time and effort we dedicated to get through Wrath of the Lich king and Icecrown to see this guy die and take a turn at Arthas is just sick. To finally see him die only to have the ENTIRE raid banned is simply an insult. It's cheap enough to make a bugged fucking encounter, but to ban people when they do not know what's causing the bugs is just a fucking joke. Whoever came up with this sheer *fisting* of an idea can go fuck themselves. If you spent hours observing us in GM-mode when we beta-test the encounters for you on live, at least make sure you ban us for the right reason. Handing out suspensions when players encounter a portion of the game that is bugged is very short-sighted and insulting. There's been hundreds of thousands of bugs in this game up til now, and most people don't get banned, when just playing their game through the bugged content you throw in their face.


Shoving PTR down our throats every patch is one thing, it's fine that we fucking beta-test shit for you, but then you go and suspend players when they do content that was never tested on PTR, and happened to be bugged. Content which you don't bother quality-assuring more than sticking a fucking godmode GM and 5 test dummies into the encounter and blasting past the phases without using abilities. Give me a break. You know more than us that we kept using our normal rotations and didn't do anything out of the ordinary. Why would we bother trying to kill valkyrs every attempt, and have the bug happen on only about half of them before wiping? You think we wanted to waste attempts if we knew how to exploit this clusterfuck of an encounter of yours?


Do me a favor so I don't waste my guild's time on this kind of jackass fuck-fest again, send me an email at mupp@gavle.to when you decide to A) Implement an encounter that wasn't designed by a retarded chimp chained to a cubicle B) Get a Quality Assuarance Department C) Actually beta test the !**#ing thing and D) Patch it live. And please for god's sake -- do it in the order I laid out for you. Don't worry, I won't charge you a consulting fee on that one. And for good luck you might as well E) Pull your heads out of your asses. While you're at it rename the game to World of Betacraft.

Rethink your fucking bullshit. Fix all the buggy motherfucking ICC encounters (I suggest you let whoever made the Blood Queen one do this since that dude apparently laid off the crack the rest of you were smoking). Fix fucking arenas, or better yet, remove that shit. Fix heroic modes (just guessing it's fucked up considering your track record). Don't have the resources to fix this stuff? Move the ENTIRE Cataclysm team over to fixing Icecrown Citadel AND DO IT NOW. If you don't fix this shit, you jackassess together with the 2 month-subscribers will be the only ones playing Cataclysm.

You got 1 week.

Thank you Blizzard, for these 5 years, but also, fuck you Blizzard, for these 5 years.

I just got banned, and I liked it.
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Re: Amazing...

Postby Yooya on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:00 am

http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/ensi ... -72-hours/

To me this seems more like a misunderstanding then them being ass fags.
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Re: Amazing...

Postby Flemtality on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:09 am

Yooya wrote:http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/ensidia-suspended-for-72-hours/

To me this seems more like a misunderstanding then them being ass fags.


While I agree this one incident could go either way it doesn't excuse the bullshit they pulled on Hodir. One might say... Karma.

Only they know for sure if they were exploiting, and they will deny it either way.

Apparently people who have done the fight are calling bullshit as well:

Why was the rogue planting saronite bombs at the edge of the platform, where he could be instantly killed by any valkyr, and where the Lich King and the adds are never tanked? What was the rogue DPSing? Does Ensidia tank the Lich King and the adds at the edge of the platform, where any raid member can be carried away and instantly killed?
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Re: Amazing...

Postby Saltycracker on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:23 am

Ahh, subjectivity is fun.

I'm with Muqq. If you have a GM watching your encounter and seeing this happen, you have the ability to pull the fight out, hotfix it, and then let them keep going later. Don't worry, Ensidia will still be there. Don't cockblock them after the fact because Blizzard did not code the fight properly, nor test it.

The hodir shit was the same bullshit. Nobody could complete the fight with the original timer. If the programmers would have tuned it correctly to begin with, we wouldnt be having this discussion.

So many bugs go live it is unfathomable. Tier-piece bonuses go unfixed for months, trinkets are broken, quests are bugged out, people cant use the summoning stone in front of the fucking instance because of phasing.
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Re: Amazing...

Postby Uzziel on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:39 am

From what I have heard, they did multiple pulls, doing the same thing. If it was something that they KNEW was unintended and could be walking the fine line of exploitation, they should have just stopped doing it. They CLAIM that they didn't need it and could have beaten it no matter what... so why not just do that?

Players like those in Ensidia know what an exploit is and they should be able to use their better judgment to not exploit. Not to mention, WoW isn't made for them. It isn't made for any of the guilds that are working on Arthas right now. Hell, I'd argue it isn't even designed for players like those in DMT.

Trade channel pugs and the Badge Gear Heroes are who WoW are utlimately tuned for. Players like those in Ensidia (and us) have too much time invested to ever actually quit in large numbers. The game just has to be attractive for people who will keep paying every month to keep their subscription. Why do you think there is ALWAYS new content being added that is for lower gear levels than what we have? New solo content, new grinding content, new daily content... it is to keep people coming back who otherwise have no real reason to keep playing (ie no time invested)

It does suck that there was a bug on Arthas. It does suck that Ensidia had to deal with that. However, rather than report the bug, wait for a hotfix, then keep doing their pulls. They killed the boss THEN reported it (Like Hodir, eh?) That is pretty lame.

Plus, Ensidia needs to realize that if they aren't top dog, some other guild will step up. Being the best guild in the world is just like being the captain of the football team in High School, its a temporary position that in the end doesn't fucking matter.
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Re: Amazing...

Postby Flemtality on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:52 am

Saltycracker wrote:Ahh, subjectivity is fun.

I'm with Muqq. If you have a GM watching your encounter and seeing this happen, you have the ability to pull the fight out, hotfix it, and then let them keep going later. Don't worry, Ensidia will still be there. Don't cockblock them after the fact because Blizzard did not code the fight properly, nor test it.

The hodir shit was the same bullshit. Nobody could complete the fight with the original timer. If the programmers would have tuned it correctly to begin with, we wouldnt be having this discussion.

So many bugs go live it is unfathomable. Tier-piece bonuses go unfixed for months, trinkets are broken, quests are bugged out, people cant use the summoning stone in front of the fucking instance because of phasing.


Like I said, they might be innocent this time but Hodir was a middle finger in Blizzard's direction followed by a middle finger in the face of every other WoW player in the world by reporting the bug after they got what they needed.

http://www.ensidia.com/article/24/

So we killed Hodir today on hard-mode. Up until this point and as stated in my blog we considered this boss completely impossible. It's not well tuned like Freya or Mimiron, luck is by far the biggest factor in this encounter and you need it in spades. We bashed about 15 hours into trying to do it when he was first changed to 2 minutes. We tried 8 Mages, we tried mass Death Knights, just about every possible comp you could think of.

So we didn't get that close, probably about 2:15 min if we had gone through with the kill (luckiest try ever). We did all the maths and worked out that this fight is 99% impossible (maybe perfect luck and 18 mages). I seriously doubt it's possible even with full Ulduar Gear. You need an average of over 12k dps on each raid member, and that is with 1 tank and 2 healers (not really doable because of dispelling requirements). So we decided after some thought to use Flower Power. I guess you could say it's like using a World Buff, but it's a pretty retarded strategy. Essentially you end up with 5 mages doing 250% more damage. With this we made it with literally 0.03 seconds left.

So a ridiculous strategy for the most ridiculous fight in the game. I'm not saying it's easy to do it this way because it really isn't. It is however the ONLY way to kill him at this point. We are not going to be screwed over by Blizzard trying to block Algalon 25 man when other guilds have already completed it, so we did what we had to.

We sincerely hope that Blizzard decides to correct this boss and the Flower Power. We will not use it for any other boss, but this fight just goes completely against everything Blizzard has said they want to make raiding. I've mailed Blizzard to this effect and we sincerely hope they fix both Hodir and Flower Power.

This is not a World First, it has no meaning at all. However we are not going to sit here and get screwed over by Blizzard. We may however release a video of a Mage doing 40k dps if people are interested.

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Re: Amazing...

Postby Flemtality on Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:33 am

Lawlz.

Fix your goddamn buggy bullshit half-assed encounters. The amount of time we dedicated to get our keys to see this guy die and take a turn at the Emperor is just sick. To finally see Blood die only to have the ENTIRE raid DT'd from anywhere in the room was simply an insult. Blood dies, there are two earrings on the corpse, yet no matter where you are in the room, the Emperor DT's. So congrats rot on those. It's cheap enough to make a mob DT in the first place. But to have his agro radius extend to the entire room is ridiculous. So let me get this straight -- and this is how you guys envisioned this in San Diego: You spend months farming keys to get up to the room. Months farming Shissar Bane weapons (and the recipe is where?). You kill Blood while dealing with 8 other snakes in the room. And immediately after that fight you're supposed to engage the DEATHTOUCHING-FROM-ANYWHERE-IN-THE-ROOM Emperor along with the 8 snakes? Whoever came up with this sheer *fisting* of an encounter can go fuck themselves. Do me a favor so I don't waste my guild's time on this kind of jackass shit-fest again, send me an email at tigole@legacyofsteel.net when you decide to A) Implement an encounter that wasn't designed by a retarded chimp chained to a cubicle B) Get a Quality Assuarance Department C) Actually beta test the fucking thing and D) Patch it live. And please for god's sake -- do it in the order I laid out for you. Don't worry, I won't charge you a consulting fee on that one. And for good luck you might as well E) Pull your heads out of your asses. While you're at it rename the game to BetaQuest since you've used up you're alotted false advertising karma on the Bazaar and user interface scam of '01.

Fix the Emperor encounter. Fix Seru. Rethink your time-sink bullshit. Fix all the buggy motherfucking ring encounters (I suggest you let whoever made the Burrower one do this since that dude apparently laid off the crack the rest of you were smoking). Fix the VT key quest. Fix VT (just guessing it's fucked up considering your track record). Don't have the resources to fix this stuff? Move the ENTIRE Planes of Power team over to fixing Shadows of Luclin AND DO IT NOW. If you don't fix Luclin, you jackassess will be the only ones playing the Planes of Power.


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Re: Amazing...

Postby Yooya on Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:25 pm

Really I don't think what Ensidia did was right (if they had any knowledge) its just I don't like seeing people bashing a guild that is nevertheless one of the best. I don't see how people who don't touch ICC bosses can cry in out rage and expect to be taken seriously. In the end if you aren't in one of those top 50 world guilds, and you're judging the actions of Ensidia then you are really out of place.
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Re: Amazing...

Postby Flemtality on Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:39 pm

Yooya wrote:Really I don't think what Ensidia did was right (if they had any knowledge) its just I don't like seeing people bashing a guild that is nevertheless one of the best. I don't see how people who don't touch ICC bosses can cry in out rage and expect to be taken seriously. In the end if you aren't in one of those top 50 world guilds, and you're judging the actions of Ensidia then you are really out of place.


To ensure they are #1 they have exploited many bosses in the past and out of all of those this is the first time they have ever been suspended. This one time is probably the least bullshit of them all, but like I said... Karma. They are all great players and shouldn't need to pull this shit... but they do.

Also, Muqq is full of shit, I call his bluff. His bitch little crybaby ass will resubscribe.
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Re: Amazing...

Postby drood on Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:04 pm

I wonder if they will get their attempts back... take my achievments and ban me in front of the whole world.. give me a chance to redeem myself imo...
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